1 | Good_morning . |
2 | How are you ? |
3 | It 's been great , has n't it ? |
4 | I 've been blown away by the whole thing . |
5 | In_fact , I 'm leaving . |
6 | There have been three themes running through the conference which are relevant to what I want to talk about . |
7 | One is the extraordinary evidence of human creativity in all of the presentations that we 've had and in all of the people here . Just the variety of it and the range of it . The second is that it 's put us in a place where we have no idea what 's going to happen , in_terms_of the future . No idea how this may play out . |
8 | I have an interest in education . |
9 | Actually , what I find is everybody has an interest in education . |
10 | Do n't you ? |
11 | I find this very interesting . |
12 | If you 're at a dinner party , and you say you work in education -- |
13 | Actually , you 're not often at dinner parties , frankly . |
14 | If you work in education , you 're not asked . |
15 | And you 're never asked back , curiously . |
16 | That 's strange to me . |
17 | But if you are , and you say to somebody , you_know , they say , “ What do you do ? ” and you say you work in education , you can see the blood run from their face . They 're like , Oh_my_God , ” you_know , “ Why me ? ” “ My one night out all week . ” But if you ask about their education , they pin you to the wall . Because it 's one of those things that goes deep with people , am I right ? |
18 | Like religion , and money and other things . |
19 | So I have a big interest in education , and I think we all do . We have a huge vested interest in it , partly because it 's education that 's meant to take us into this future that we ca n't grasp . |
20 | If you think of it , children starting school this year will be retiring in 2065 . |
21 | Nobody has a clue , despite all the expertise that 's been on parade for the past four days , what the world will look like in five years ' time . |
22 | And yet we 're meant to be educating them for it . |
23 | So the unpredictability , I think , is extraordinary . |
24 | And the third part of this is that we 've all agreed , nonetheless , on the really extraordinary capacities that children have -- their capacities for innovation . |
25 | I_mean , Sirena last night was a marvel , was n't she ? Just seeing what she could do . And she 's exceptional , but I think she 's not , so to speak , exceptional in the whole of childhood . |
26 | What you have there is a person of extraordinary dedication who found a talent . |
27 | And my contention is , all kids have tremendous talents . And we squander them , pretty ruthlessly . |
28 | So I want to talk about education and I want to talk about creativity . |
29 | My contention is that creativity now is as important in education as literacy , and we should treat it with the same status . |
30 | Thank_you . |
31 | That was it , by_the_way . |
32 | Thank_you very much . |
33 | So , 15 minutes left . |
34 | Well , I was born ... no . |
35 | I heard a great story recently -- I love telling it -- of a little girl who was in a drawing lesson . She was six , and she was at the back , drawing , and the teacher said this girl hardly ever paid attention , and in this drawing lesson , she did . |
36 | The teacher was fascinated . She went over_to her , and she said , “ What are you drawing ? ” And the girl said , “ I 'm drawing a picture of God . ” And the teacher said , “ But nobody knows what God looks like . ” And the girl said , “ They will , in a minute . ” |
37 | When my son was four in England -- Actually , he was four everywhere , to be honest . If we 're being strict about it , wherever he went , he was four that year . He was in the Nativity play . |
38 | Do you remember the story ? No , it was big , it was a big story . |
39 | Mel Gibson did the sequel , you may have seen it . “ Nativity II . ” |
40 | But James got the part of Joseph , which we were thrilled about . We considered this to be one of the lead parts . |
41 | We had the place crammed full of agents in T_-_shirts : |
42 | “ James Robinson IS Joseph ! ” He did n't have to speak , but you know the bit where the three kings come in ? They come in bearing gifts , gold , frankincense and myrrh . |
43 | This really happened . |
44 | We were sitting there and I think they just went out_of sequence , because we talked to the little boy afterward and we said , “ You OK with that ? ” And he said , “ Yeah , why ? Was that wrong ? ” |
45 | They just switched . |
46 | The three boys came in , four_-_year_-_olds with tea towels on their heads , and they put these boxes down , and the first boy said , “ I bring you gold . ” And the second boy said , “ I bring you myrrh . ” |
47 | And the third boy said , “ Frank sent this . ” |
48 | What these things have in_common is that kids will take a chance . If they do n't know , they 'll have a go . |
49 | Am I right ? |
50 | They 're not frightened of being wrong . |
51 | I do n't mean to say that being wrong is the same thing as being creative . |
52 | What we do know is , if you 're not prepared to be wrong , you 'll never come up with anything original -- if you 're not prepared to be wrong . |
53 | And by the time they get to be adults , most kids have lost that capacity . They have become frightened of being wrong . |
54 | And we run our companies like this . |
55 | We stigmatize mistakes . |
56 | And we 're now running national education systems where mistakes are the worst thing you can make . |
57 | And the result is that we are educating people out_of their creative capacities . |
58 | Picasso once said this , he said that all children are born artists . |
59 | The problem is to remain an artist as we grow up . |
60 | I believe this passionately , that we do n't grow into creativity , we grow out_of it . |
61 | Or rather , we get educated out_of it . |
62 | So why is this ? |
63 | I lived in Stratford_-_on_-_Avon until about five years ago . |
64 | In_fact , we moved from Stratford to Los Angeles . So you can imagine what a seamless transition that was . |
65 | Actually , we lived in a place called Snitterfield , just outside Stratford , which is where Shakespeare 's father was born . |
66 | Are you struck by a new thought ? |
67 | I was . |
68 | You do n't think of Shakespeare having a father , do you ? |
69 | Do you ? |
70 | Because you do n't think of Shakespeare being a child , do you ? |
71 | Shakespeare being seven ? |
72 | I never thought of it . |
73 | I mean , he was seven at some point . |
74 | He was in somebody 's English class , was n't he ? |
75 | How annoying would that be ? |
76 | “ Must try harder . ” |
77 | Being sent to bed by his dad , you_know , to Shakespeare , “ Go to bed , now ! |
78 | And put the pencil down . ” |
79 | “ And stop speaking like that . ” “ It 's confusing everybody . ” |
80 | Anyway , we moved from Stratford to Los Angeles , and I just want to say a word about the transition . |
81 | My son did n't want to come . I 've got two kids ; he 's 21 now , my daughter 's 16 . He did n't want to come to Los Angeles . He loved it , but he had a girlfriend in England . This was the love of his life , Sarah . He 'd known her for a month . |
82 | Mind_you , they 'd had their fourth anniversary , because it 's a long time when you 're 16 . |
83 | He was really upset on the plane , he said , “ I 'll never find another girl like Sarah . ” And we were rather pleased about that , frankly -- Because she was the main reason we were leaving the country . |
84 | But something strikes you when you move to America and travel around the world : |
85 | Every education system on Earth has the same hierarchy of subjects . |
86 | Every one . |
87 | Does n't matter where you go . |
88 | You 'd think it would be otherwise , but it is n't . |
89 | At the top are mathematics and languages , then the humanities , and at the bottom are the arts . |
90 | Everywhere on Earth . |
91 | And in pretty much every system too , there 's a hierarchy within the arts . |
92 | Art and music are normally given a higher status in schools than drama and dance . |
93 | There is n't an education system on the planet that teaches dance every day to children the way we teach them mathematics . |
94 | Why ? |
95 | Why not ? |
96 | I think this is rather important . |
97 | I think math is very important , but so is dance . |
98 | Children dance all the time if they 're allowed to , we all do . |
99 | We all have bodies , do n't we ? |
100 | Did I miss a meeting ? |
101 | Truthfully , what happens is , as children grow up , we start to educate them progressively from the waist up . |
102 | And then we focus on their heads . |
103 | And slightly to one side . |
104 | If you were to visit education , as an alien , and say “ What 's it for , public education ? ” |
105 | I think you 'd have to conclude , if you look at the output , who really succeeds by this , who does everything that they should , who gets all the brownie points , who are the winners -- |
106 | I think you 'd have to conclude the whole purpose of public education throughout the world is to produce university professors . |
107 | Is n't it ? |
108 | They 're the people who come out the top . |
109 | And I used to be one , so_there . |
110 | And I like university professors , but you_know , we should n't hold them up as the high_-_water mark of all human achievement . They 're just a form of life , another form of life . But they 're rather curious , and I say this out_of affection for them . There 's something curious about professors in my experience -- not all of them , but typically , they live in their heads . They live up there , and slightly to one side . They 're disembodied , you_know , in a kind of literal way . They look upon their body as a form of transport for their heads . Do n't they ? It 's a way of getting their head to meetings . |
111 | If you want real evidence of out_-_of_-_body experiences , get yourself along_to a residential conference of senior academics , and pop into the discotheque on the final night . |
112 | And there , you will see it . |
113 | Grown men and women writhing uncontrollably , off the beat . |
114 | Waiting until it ends so they can go home and write a paper about it . |
115 | Our education system is predicated on the idea of academic ability . |
116 | And there 's a reason . |
117 | Around the world , there were no public systems of education , really , before the 19th century . |
118 | They all came into being to meet the needs of industrialism . |
119 | So the hierarchy is rooted on two ideas . |
120 | Number one , that the most useful subjects for work are at the top . |
121 | So you were probably steered benignly away_from things at school when you were a kid , things you liked , on the grounds that you would never get a job doing that . |
122 | Is that right ? |
123 | Do n't do music , you 're not going to be a musician ; do n't do art , you wo n't be an artist . |
124 | Benign advice -- now , profoundly mistaken . |
125 | The whole world is engulfed in a revolution . |
126 | And the second is academic ability , which has really come to dominate our view of intelligence , because the universities designed the system in their image . |
127 | If you think of it , the whole system of public education around the world is a protracted process of university entrance . |
128 | And the consequence is that many highly - talented , brilliant , creative people think they 're not , because the thing they were good at at school was n't valued , or was actually stigmatized . |
129 | And I think we ca n't afford to go on that way . |
130 | In the next 30 years , according_to UNESCO , more people worldwide will be graduating through education than_since the beginning of history . |
131 | More people , and it 's the combination of all the things we 've talked about -- technology and its transformation effect on work , and demography and the huge explosion in population . |
132 | Suddenly , degrees are n't worth anything . |
133 | Is n't that true ? |
134 | When I was a student , if you had a degree , you had a job . |
135 | If you did n't have a job , it 's because you did n't want one . |
136 | And I did n't want one , frankly . |
137 | But now kids with degrees are often heading home to carry on playing video games , because you need an MA where the previous job required a BA , and now you need a PhD for the other . |
138 | It 's a process of academic inflation . |
139 | And it indicates the whole structure of education is shifting beneath our feet . |
140 | We need to radically rethink our view of intelligence . |
141 | We know three things about intelligence . |
142 | One , it 's diverse . |
143 | We think about the world in all the ways that we experience it . |
144 | We think visually , we think in sound , we think kinesthetically . |
145 | We think in abstract terms , we think in movement . |
146 | Secondly , intelligence is dynamic . |
147 | If you look at the interactions of a human brain , as we heard yesterday from a number of presentations , intelligence is wonderfully interactive . |
148 | The brain is n't divided into compartments . |
149 | In_fact , creativity -- which I define as the process of having original ideas that have value -- more often than not comes about through the interaction of different disciplinary ways of seeing things . |
150 | By_the_way , there 's a shaft of nerves that joins the two halves of the brain called the corpus callosum . |
151 | It 's thicker in women . |
152 | Following off from Helen yesterday , this is probably why women are better at multi_-_tasking . |
153 | Because you are , are n't you ? |
154 | There 's a raft of research , but I know it from my personal life . |
155 | If my wife is cooking a meal at home -- which is not often , thankfully . |
156 | No , she 's good at some things , but if she 's cooking , she 's dealing with people on the phone , she 's talking to the kids , she 's painting the ceiling , she 's doing open_-_heart surgery over_here . |
157 | If I 'm cooking , the door is shut , the kids are out , the phone 's on the hook , if she comes in I get annoyed . I say , “ Terry , please , I 'm trying to fry an egg in here . ” |
158 | “ Give me a break . ” |
159 | Actually , do you know that old philosophical thing , if a tree falls in a forest and nobody hears it , did it happen ? |
160 | Remember that old chestnut ? |
161 | I saw a great t_-_shirt recently , which said , “ If a man speaks his mind in a forest , and no woman hears him , is he still wrong ? ” |
162 | And the third thing about intelligence is , it 's distinct . |
163 | I 'm doing a new book at the moment called “ Epiphany , ” which is based on a series of interviews with people about how they discovered their talent . I 'm fascinated by how people got to be there . It 's really prompted by a conversation I had with a wonderful woman who maybe most people have never heard of , Gillian Lynne . Have you heard of her ? |
164 | Some have . |
165 | She 's a choreographer , and everybody knows her work . She did “ Cats ” and “ Phantom of the Opera . ” She 's wonderful . |
166 | I used to be on the board of The Royal Ballet , as you can see . |
167 | Anyway , Gillian and I had lunch one day and I said , “ How did you get to be a dancer ? ” |
168 | It was interesting . |
169 | When she was at school , she was really hopeless . And the school , in the '30s , wrote to her parents and said , “ We think Gillian has a learning disorder . ” She could n't concentrate ; she was fidgeting . I think now they 'd say she had ADHD . |
170 | Would n't you ? |
171 | But this was the 1930s , and ADHD had n't been invented at this point . It was n't an available condition . People were n't aware they could have that . |
172 | Anyway , she went to see this specialist . So , this oak_-_paneled room , and she was there with her mother , and she was led and sat on this chair at the end , and she sat on her hands for 20 minutes while this man talked to her mother about the problems Gillian was having at school . Because she was disturbing people ; her homework was always late ; and so_on , little kid of eight . In the end , the doctor went and sat next_to Gillian , and said , “ I 've listened to all these things your mother 's told me , I need to speak to her privately . Wait here . We 'll be back ; we wo n't be very long , ” and they went and left her . But as they went out_of the room , he turned on the radio that was sitting on his desk . And when they got out , he said to her mother , “ Just stand and watch her . ” And the minute they left the room , she was on her feet , moving to the music . And they watched for a_few minutes and he turned to her mother and said , “ Mrs. Lynne , Gillian is n't sick ; she 's a dancer . Take her to a dance school . ” |
173 | I said , “ What happened ? ” |
174 | She said , “ She did . I ca n't tell you how wonderful it was . We walked in this room and it was full of people like me . |
175 | People who could n't sit still . |
176 | People who had to move to think . ” |
177 | Who had to move to think . |
178 | They did ballet , they did tap , jazz ; they did modern ; they did contemporary . |
179 | She was eventually auditioned for the Royal Ballet School ; she became a soloist ; she had a wonderful career at the Royal Ballet . She eventually graduated from the Royal Ballet School , founded the Gillian Lynne Dance Company , met Andrew Lloyd Webber . She 's been responsible for some of the most successful musical theater productions in history , she 's given pleasure to millions , and she 's a multi_-_millionaire . Somebody else might have put her on medication and told her to calm down . |
180 | What I think it comes to is this : |
181 | Al Gore spoke the other night about ecology and the revolution that was triggered by Rachel Carson . |
182 | I believe our only hope for the future is to adopt a new conception of human ecology , one in which we start to reconstitute our conception of the richness of human capacity . |
183 | Our education system has mined our minds in the way that we strip_-_mine the earth : for a particular commodity . |
184 | And for the future , it wo n't serve us . |
185 | We have to rethink the fundamental principles on which we 're educating our children . |
186 | There was a wonderful quote by Jonas Salk , who said , “ If all the insects were to disappear from the Earth , within 50 years all life on Earth would end . If all human beings disappeared from the Earth , within 50 years all forms of life would flourish . ” And he 's right . |
187 | What TED celebrates is the gift of the human imagination . |
188 | We have to be careful now that we use this gift wisely and that we avert some of the scenarios that we 've talked about . And the only way we 'll do it is by seeing our creative capacities for the richness they are and seeing our children for the hope that they are . And our task is to educate their whole being , so they can face this future . By_the_way -- we may not see this future , but they will . And our job is to help them make something of it . |
189 | Thank_you very much . |